Overrated and Overhyped Garbage: Madoka Magica

This post is not intended to be a review or an overview, what it is intended to be is a collection of negative points and elements that are found within the show called Madoka Magica, which in my opinion are enough to consider the anime to be bad or at the very least, mediocre.

Let’s start off from the very beginning.

The Hype

Even when Madoka was still just airing it was already praised and hyped by many across the anime community as a “deep and mature” take on the magical girl genre, which is complete bullshit.

But lets examine the underlying causes that led us here, why is Madoka considered to be something special or something unique? Western anime fans have always had the misconception that the magical girl genre is something that is meant for little girls, thus they did not have high opinions of it, leading to low expectations. Even though if one were to actually look at the statistics and the released magical girl anime, one would find out that most magical girls, like moe anime,  are actually primarily made for the male audience. While magical girl anime for little girls also exist, they are in a much smaller number, usually concentrated in long running series such as the Precure series.

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In fact, anime fans couldn’t be farther from the truth, as Magical Girls were one of the first genres in anime to explore such themes as bullying, parental abandonment, domestic violence, social exclusion, loneliness, drug abuse and etcetera as early as 1974! With Majokko Meg Chan, it was also one of the first anime of its time to let the main girl character lose and feature a really evil character. The subgenre known as the Dark Mahou Shoujo was one of the first subgenres to develop in the Mahou Shoujo genre, Dark Mahou Shoujo anime are usually just as dark if not darker than Madoka Magica. So why is it that western fans still have the misconception that magical girls are shows for little girls?

The answer to that couldn’t be any simpler. Because they don’t fucking watch magical girl anime!

Indeed most of the people who praised Madoka as the “brilliant new take on the magical girl genre” have never watched a single Mahou Shoujo aside from maybe Sailor Moon in their life, they were entirely working on the assumption that magical girl shows are for little girls, which is a delusion that the community shared and thus inflated. So yes, Madoka was hyped up as the best magical girl anime by the people who aren’t even experienced in the genre. Oh boy if we aren’t off to a good start already…..

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Still the claim remains that Madoka is something unique within the genre, so I shall debunk that piece by piece.

A. The Art
Easily one of the first thing one notices about the show and also one of the usually praised categories, when they forget that it’s just typical SHAFT hijinks, literally every one of their anime past 2007 has these exact same damn art and animation techniques that they just keep reusing into everyone of their shows. SHAFT are just milking their own artstyle for the sake of profit and because of the fact that the same art-style is spread across multiple works, it is no longer unique to Madoka, thus their claim is bullshit.

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Funnily I always thought that these op’s from Zetsubou looked straight out like a scene from the witches world in Madoka.

B. The Philosophy
Literally nothing unique about it, as it has already been proven numerous times that Urobutchi just copied Goethe’s Faust for Madoka and didn’t add anything new to the already existing thoughts and viewpoints. The connection is all the more obvious from the number of references to Faust the creators have jammed into Madoka, I won’t bother listing them so you can go read them at: https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Madoka_Magica_and_Faust

C. Characters
The characters of Madoka are often praised even though they deserve none, they don’t even feel like people much less regular little girls, which has to do with Urobutchers inability to write anything but male characters. Even if we put Urobutchi’s incompetence to the side, one still cannot excuse that none of the characters have any concrete character, they change however and whenever the creator feels like it. (I’m primarily referring to Kyouko suddenly deciding to consider Sayaka a friend, then barely after, abandoning her initially shown and established ideals just so she could die with Sayaka.) The biggest sin though is that none of them have any free will, they seemingly influence the story, but they actually only move according to the authors puppet strings.

D. The maturity of the series.
Blood and mindless shock factor don’t make a series mature, otherwise everyone would be right about Elfen Lied.
Even the “darkness” of madoka is nothing new as dark mahou shoujo as a subgenre is almost as old as the genre itself and Madoka is hardly the first dark mahou shoujo anime that is basically about torturing little girls.
Everyone just forgot or never watched those older shows.

E. Story
Once more nothing new, it takes from Faust as I have already said as well as from other preexisting mahou shoujo shows such as Sailor Moon, Nanoha, Mai Hime and Princess Tutu. Additionally Gen Urobutchi has admitted to taking several elements and high inspiration from the Japanese Sentai Show called Kamen Rider Ryuki.
So I went ahead and watched a few dozen episodes of Kamen Rider Ryuki and the similarities were striking.
In both show the witches/monsters function exactly the same way, the main characters also usually eliminate then by going into their world and destroying them. In Kamen Rider the Riders are also competing against each other for a wish that the winner will gain.

“All over the city, innocent people are being mysteriously abducted, never to be seen again. During his investigations of these incidents, Shinji Kido – an intern at the online news service ORE Journal – discovers one of the Advent Card decks at an apartment where every reflective surface has been covered by newspaper. He is soon sucked into the Mirror World, discovering the terrifying truth behind the disappearances: people are literally being pulled through mirrors by the monsters of the Mirror World so that they may feed. He is about to be killed by a powerful dragon named Dragredder when he is saved by Kamen Rider Knight: Ren Akiyama. Ren seeks to win the Rider War at all costs. He works with a young woman named Yui Kanzaki, who seeks her missing brother: the master of the Rider War, Shiro Kanzaki. Seeing Ren’s strength, Shinji enters the Rider War not for the prize, but so that he may protect innocent people from the threat of the Mirror World, and stop the senseless fighting between the Kamen Riders. With Dragredder as his Contract Monster, he becomes Kamen Rider Ryuki”

Just replace Rider with Magical Girl and its almost the same show.
(Also from what I watched of Kamen Rider, it was better than Madoka in every aspect with the exception of graphics [if we count the Movie quality for Madoka of course])

See? There is literally nothing original or new that came with Madoka, it is a work that is praised for its originality when in fact it just copied from all over the place! The only thing unique about Madoka is how overrated and overhyped it is for such a mediocrity.

Next Major Problem: The Characters
I already touched upon them in the first section, but now I’m going to obliterate them.

The biggest and most general problem with the characters in Madoka is that they are all plot devices that literally only exist to fulfill a certain role in the story whenever the writer demands, which is why they usually die or get beaten after fulfilling their roles. Their role as a plot device is far more defining to them than their characteristics, for most Madoka characters receive little to no development and feel highly 1 dimensional. Let’s examine just how the characters of Madoka Magica are plot devices.

1. Mami Tomoe – Plot Device of Exposition

Mami is only there to serve as the role of the mentor figure for our heroines, be their senior magical girl if you will. Most of the initial information about Magical Girls came from her and thus she was used for the purpose of world building as well as enticing our characters to be Magical girls like some kind of devil. Devil isn’t really that far off as a metaphor, because let’s be honest, Mami is a fucking bitch who wants Madoka and Sayaka to become Magical Girls just so she won’t have to be alone anymore. Talk about selfishness. Needless to say after Mami has fulfilled her purpose of exposition, Urobutcher decided that it was time for her to die, and she indeed dies by being turned into an idiot for the show’s convenience. Instead of just shooting the damn thing she stares dumbly at the newly emerged witch and lets it devour her, because its convenient for the plot to just forget that Mami was initially shown to be a competent and experienced fighter. I still don’t get why some people actually cried for her death, she was a terrible person who deserved it anyway.Her 3 episode death is meant to serve as cheap shock factor and the hook for the rest of the show, Urobutcher wanted you to continue watching just because she died! And Urobutcher succeeded as usual.

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2. Homura Akemi – The Walking Plot Convenience

Homura Akemi has the power of Time ( and by extension Space) Manipulation as well as knowledge of the future due to her repeated time resets. Just think about this for a second, Homura knows everything that can happen and what will happen in the entire time span of Madoka Magica, so by extension everything that happens in the show only happens because Homura allows it to happen, this puts her in a rather strange position the moment one becomes aware of both her powers and her goals. It is hard to ignore it, like really after thinking about it one will wonder, wait why didn’t she appear then? Why didn’t she save X? Why didn’t she stop time at moment Y? And those questions are justified as Homura makes completely arbitrary decisions despite knowledge and powers.

Let’s start off with the very beginning of Madoka Magica, we see QB limping around while bleeding, it was revealed not so later that it was Homura who attacked him. The fact that Madoka and Sayaka came across QB while he was injured essentially sparks the whole show, yet it doesn’t make sense due to the fact that Homura Akemi can control time, something which was not revealed at this point, but because of our viewing we know this truth. Why the fuck was QB able to survive with just a wound if he was chased by the time stopping Homura? If a time stopper wants you dead, you don’t fucking escape, you fucking die, which is why this is either a plot hole or it means that Homura wanted QB to survive and limp away to Madoka and Sayaka for unknown reasons, which again doesn’t make any sense because Homura is trying to prevent Madoka from becoming a magical girl, yet this the very moment that eventually led to Sayaka and Madoka becoming Magical Girls in the later episodes.

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Also note that Homura wants to protect Madoka, which she conveniently does by randomly appearing from nowhere. While at other times, whenever the plot demands it, she doesn’t appear even when Madoka is in clear danger such as the case with the episode where Madoka had to be saved by the newly Magical Girl turned Sayaka.

Homura is a walking plot convenience that the writer can summon whenever he pleases and needs, he can summon her whenever another character is in danger, he can summon her whenever QB needs to be shot, he can summon whenever he needs someone to play the role of an antagonist (other than QB), he can summon her whenever he wants to intensify the mystery and the tension etc. Homura going by her repeated loops should be about the age of 25-30 mentally speaking, yet even with her multitude of experience and retries she doesn’t realizes the most obvious solutions to many of the problems found within the show. Literally all the characters in the show can only die because Homura lets them die. She is supposedly portrayed as an intelligent character, while in reality she has no free will and none of her actions matter in the course of the story because  she is merely a puppet of the writer.

3. Kyuubey – Plot Device of Infodumping

You want to feed info to the audience? No problem just grab this cute white looking fox creature and have him feed the audience whatever you want them to know. Whenever QB talks it is usually another form of exposition and cheap, lazily done world building. He is supposed to be an emotionless alien, yet they failed in making him truly emotionless, just like the characters of another anime called Death Parade, which likewise was supposed to have emotionless characters. A character that openly demonstrated the ability to feel annoyance and curiosity cannot by any means be called an emotionless creature. The truth behind QB is worse than one might expect, as Kyuubey is literally the self insert character of the Author, Gen Urobutchi, he speaks whatever he wants and cannot be removed from the story, his only goal is to lead the characters astray and into corruption, he thus serves little more than the mouthpiece of the writer.

He is supposed to be honest and not-manipulative due to lack of emotions, but that’s clearly a false statement as he purposely didn’t mention effects that would come with the Magical Girl contract as if he was some bad terms of service notification on your computer, while at other times he states 1 thing (YOU CAN WISH FOR ANYTHING) then states the complete opposite in a later episode ( NUH UH YOU CANT WISH FOR ANYTHING, YOU DONT HAVE ENOUGH MAHOU POWER).

Fans of the show excuse this bullshit by saying “the girls didn’t ask him that X very specific detail that they couldn’t have known, so its not QB’s fault”.

And my answer to that is: fuck you! Kyuubey regularly appeared out of nowhere throughout the entire series just to infodump about totally irrelevant crap that no one asked about, so he could have easily told all the things that come with being a Magical Girl to our main characters. But he didn’t do it, because he is Urobutchi personified and thus he wants the girls to suffer.

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4. Sayaka – Plot Device of Shock Factor and Drama

After Mami died Urobutcher needed another girl to torture and let the shock factor continue, so his hands fell onto poor, little Sayaka.

It is of little surprise that Urobutcher choose Sayaka, for one of his famous quotes is “Good and nice characters don’t deserve happy endings.” And as Sayaka is arguably the nicest and most helpful in the cast from the beginning, it was inevitable that she would suffer in this show, which immediately begins after she becomes a magical girl (how unexpected). It would not be inaccurate to say that Sayaka’s role in the show is to literally suffer, that’s why she exists after all, she is someone with a strong sense of justice and ideals, that will get broken down as the show progresses.

And I would argue that this is actually the best part of Madoka, due to the fact that Sayaka is the only decent(quality-wise) character in the entire show. Within the cast of Madoka Magica, only 2 characters have regular lives(reality) and interactions outside of being a magical girl(fantasy), these two characters are Sayaka and Madoka. But since Madoka is a passive observer who doesn’t do anything until the ending, nobody cares about her. Unlike Sayaka who is the opposite of Madoka in that she is very proactive and is constantly doing something. We see her interactions with characters (Hitomi, Kyousuke) who are not part of this whole magical girl nonsense, therefore she gives off a completely different air than Homura who is surrounded by mystery and doesn’t feel like a human anymore or Kyouko/Mami who are loner magical girls defined solely by their interactions in the realm of fantasy and magic. Sayaka actually feels like a real character more than just her assigned role and its what makes her more sympathetic and relatable than any other member of the cast. Still it isn’t a big accomplishment considering she is the only character in the show who received 3 episodes of development.

But is all ruined by shitty pacing and poor execution. The change in Sayaka seems to happen almost instantly the moment she realizes the truth of the grief seed, instead of the change being gradual. Her being distraught over it is never truly explained or delved into. You are not human? So fucking what? Life is not over just because you lost your humanity (besides its not like her soul was taken, it was still in the grief seed after all and thus within her possession). This stupid reason was what pushed her into “despair mode” but even at this stage Homura could have literally saved her ANY time she wanted to by stopping time and just refilling her goddamned soul gem. But NOPE, instead Homura decides to kill Sayaka in order to prevent Madoka see her fall and be saddened, which totally not makes sense, because it’s not like Madoka wouldn’t be saddened just from the fact that Homura killed her best friend. Flawless logic and flawless writing.

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5. Kyouko – Foil to Sayaka

First off I would like to say that I will completely ignore and not comment on the fact that Kyouko is the carbon copy of a magical girl from another mahou shoujo anime.

Kyouko was introduced right after Sayaka became a magical girl and died when Sayaka became a witch. This is not a coincidence, for Kyouko’s character literally existed only for Sayaka, as they are two sides of the same coin that complimented and built each other. While Sayaka was outwardly friendly and selfless, inwardly she wished for a selfish happiness ( love with Kyosuke), while Kyouko was externally selfish and inwardly she wished for companionship. Kyouko exists solely for the sake of torturing Sayaka as the moment they met each other they were fated to clash due to their opposing ideals, Sayaka did not understand how Kyouko could be so selfish and thus it gnawed on her from episode 5.

Kyouko herself doesn’t have any character, as she is sorely defined by the contrast between herself and Sayaka. And her supposed “development” was way too rushed to count for anything, one episodes she wants to kill our characters, the next episode she wants to be friends. And for what reason? Because she felt sorry for Sayaka? Complete bullshit writing. Her choosing to die with Sayaka instead of just safely defeating the newly born witch also doesn’t make any sense as she was presented as a selfish character from the beginning, and no change or event occurred that would have been sufficient to change this selfish trait of hers. Thus I conclude that she was just killed off because now that Sayaka was gone, Urobutcher no longer needed her.

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6. Madoka – Final Ex Machina

The sole purpose Madoka exist for is to solve the conflict at the end of the show with her wish, that is her entire purpose. She can essentially wish for anything due to her “magic potential” giving her the possibility to be God, which she actually does become (even though that’s not what she wished for). Throughout the rest of the series she is just a passive observer who doesn’t do anything relevant besides crying and getting in the way of other characters, which happens due to the fact that seeing she is the namesake of the show, they had to carry Madoka around into dangerous Witch Lair’s even though she could never help the other characters. Her presented “personality” makes absolutely zero sense, she feels as if she was several years younger than Sayaka, Mami, Hitomi and the other characters. She is naive and unrealistically innocent, there is literally nothing about her that would make her interesting as a character, yet everything revolves around her. You can’t make a decent anime like this.

A good portion of the show is spent trying to convince Madoka to become a Mahou Shoujo (Mami, QB) while others try to stop this process (Homura and Later Sayaka). Yet at the end of the show she makes the resolution of choosing to make a wish anyway. What led her to make a wish? We don’t fucking know, because Madoka never has any deep monologues or introspection that would have led us know her thought process or made the character interesting in some way.

She is easily the worst character in the entire series, yet it still baffles me that the whole thing is named after her.

7. Madoka’s Mom

Madoka’s Mom was presented as strong female, businesswomen who often offered her daughter various advice whenever she was feeling uncertain. She was shown to be a caring mother, yet at the end of the show she chooses to willingly let her daughter go outside a dangerous hurricane for no clear reason, despite the possibility that her daughter might endanger herself with this. Yeah. BestMomoftheYear2012

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8. Hitomi and Kyosuke

They exist for the sole purpose of making Sayaka suffer and thus lose all their relevance when she dies.

9. Walpurgishnacht

The supposed main bad is just a completely mindless monster as all previous witches, how boring~ Considering she is the whole reason Homura is having a hard time one would think that they would have at least attempted to make it more interesting, but no.

Section C: That Wish/Magic Reset Endings are the worst type of ending a show can have

The ending to a good show is supposed to be like cream to the cake, it is the finalizer and resolver of everything that has happened so far in the show, it is supposed to give us a lasting impression that will etch the show into our hearts and memories. Yet in Madoka all it does is make things worse than they already were. What’s the point of a suffering train if the ending resets everything, magically resurrects all the characters and basically negates everything that happened in the whole show?

What did the characters suffer for?

What did Homura loop a decade for?

What was the point of it all if it ends with a meaningless bullshit reset ending?

It is just another form of deus ex machina, a way for characters to continue on with their leaves as if nothing happened for the sole sake of pleasing the audience who were saddened with their deaths.

Though the reason why this type of ending happened in Madoka is even worse, Madoka was made to have such an ending so that more Madoka could be made in the format of movies and thus it could bring even more money to the table. It is nothing but shameless milking! Fuck you Urobutcher.

Section D: That Symbolism for the Sake of Symbolism is meaningless

People often praise how good the symbolism in Madoka is. I say bullshit. Because the symbolism in Madoka is completely independent and sometimes even out of place from with what is going at the show. Symbolism is only good when it serves a specific purpose or if it is in a direct connection with the themes and messages of the anime, thus contributing to the greater whole (See Evangelion). Symbolism in Madoka is only there so pretentious anime fags can pretend that this is a deep and mature anime, thus validating their own taste.

Section E: That the Art was originally crap

The TV series version of Madoka, which was the version I watched was atrocious and unfinished, to the point that an entire parody series called Meguca Magica was produced based on how bad everything looked. This was however fixed in later versions and movie releases, where everything looked pretty and crystal clear. But the release of the newer versions is clearly not enough to erase the pain of having watched the original.

Section F: That Madoka would have needed 24 episodes

Seriously, most of the problems that deal with the characters being horrible and 1 dimensional could have been solved easily if the series had 24 episodes for its leisure. The deaths and the drama would also spread out with the increased number of episodes, making them less shock-factor material. If the show spent like 3-5 episodes on every girl (like it did on Sayaka), then this could actually be a decent anime.

Section G: That losing when you have the power to stop Time never makes sense

It just doesn’t, it is such an almighty power, especially Homura’s version with rewind and seemingly minute long time stops, that in a logical scenario she should have won after the first few tries. Dio Brando losing in Jojo was bullshit and so is Homura Akemi losing, espcially when Homura is far more powerful than Dio Brando ever was.

No matter what you do, a time manipulator losing always looks stupid.

But to be fair, if they had actually let Homura win, Madoka would have remained useless the whole show, but it would have at least saved us of the whole magic bullshit reset ending.

Section H: On the fights in Madoka Magica

Up until Episode 5 of Madoka Magica, I was utterly bored watching this show. Why is that you might ask? That is because while even the episodes prior to that had action segments, it was meaningless and uninteresting to me for the opponents of the girls were witches, witches are basically mindless and unthinking monsters. If something is an unthinking monster it is not interesting to watch that fight, the same way many mecha anime become boring when they choose to make opponents full of bug-like alien monsters instead of other humans or humanoid aliens (I’m looking at you Macross). The only way to compensate for this is to make the monsters really scary or striking, something which Attack on Titan succeeded in the first few episodes by making the Titans both creepy (Smiling Titan) and terrifying (Armoured Titan). Madoka does not succeeds in this, nor do I think it ever attempted to make witches scary. They are just creepy weird creatures that generally do their own thing instead of actually caring about battles. Even when they are shot and being fought by the Magical Girls they don’t seem to react or care, it is an absolutely one sided fight where only the Magical Girl has something to win. And if the witches don’t care that they are getting killed, why should I? It’s impossible for me to get pumped up by such boring opponents.

This all changed with episode 5, when Kyouko was introduced and she started fighting Sayaka. Finally, instead of mindless monsters we were having human vs human conflict, which was actually interesting due to the conflicting ideals that were between Sayaka and Kyouko. But after this good period, we are once more returned to Witches vs Magical Girls with Walpugrishnacht that I couldn’t give a fuck about, as all Walpurgishnacht was doing, was floating in the air and laughing like a maniac, it’s hard to take an opponent like that even seriously or care for, which is a damn shame as the fight was really well animated and had overall good quality.

Section I: On the Pacing

The first half of Madoka Magica was okay in terms of pacing, so I shall not comment on that. But about the 8th episode the show realizes that it just spent the last 5 episodes on Kyouko and Sayaka alone, all the while not giving any attention or development to other characters (much less to the main character, Madoka). The show goes “oh shit” mode and immediately starts rushing things, which is why the 9th episode has QB do some obligatory infodumping after Kyouko and Sayaka collectively removed themselves from the story. The following episode is the backstory of Homura, which is obviously a lazy attempt to make us care about her as she will be the center of focus in episode 11 and 12, but it does nothing due to the fact that Kyouko’s and Sayaka’s collecitve segment was 5 episodes, Homura’s just feels incredibly rushed in comparison, and honestly just telling us about her backstory is such a lazy way of doing it. But it is still better than what happened to Madoka, who never received any real development, fleshening or detailing until the end of the show.

The pacing then goes complete shit as the next episodes feel completely worn and unnecessarily dragged out.

Once more I must mention that Madoka Magica should have had 24 episodes for its completion, in order to tell a story of this scope in an effective manner.

Section J: That Pseudo-Science does not make for a good plot

Hoohoo big revelations in episode 9, QB is actually an alien, and they are trying to save the world from entropy!…..by sacrificing the emotions of magical girls…… You just got tricked into thinking this is a fantasy show! Tt is actually a sci-fi lololol. Pretty much a big fuck you to the entire audience, although hardly the first time a Magical Girl show had done this, it is mostly just Urobutchi’s attempts at trying to deepen the story, not realizing he only made it worse. First off, the whole disappearing energy problem is completely unrealistic as energy never ceases to be, it only changes, therefore the universe should not be able to run out of energy, making the goal of the incubators completely redundant. Secondly, why the fuck would you even bring this to an universal scale? When all the events and story up until now centered around the events of a town/city. It doesn’t make sense nor does it fit the theme at all, it is hard to give a fuck about the universe when the whole anime is set in a city/mirror worlds with girls trying to solve their local supernatural problems.

This was simply a lazy way that Urobutcher attempted to connect all the pieces together, but at this point it would honestly have been better if everything was just left unexplained, I mean seriously this is pretty much the laziest and the worst explanation you can come up with in a fantasy story. If you would have chosen not to explain it, nobody would have really cared, because it would have boiled down to the classic”lol magic who cares”, but you just had to make things worse, didn’t you?

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Section K: Plethora of plot holes.

Because Madoka is full of them, I already mentioned some earlier, but its time to list them together.

  1. QB escaping and surviving Homura attack ep 1
  2. The entire death of Mami, how did a newborn witch kill an expert Mahou Shoujo?
  3. Sayaka, how did a complete rookie easily dispatch a witch, right after her first transformation?
  4. Episode four, Madoka is captured by a witch after she foolishly went out, strangely no Homura rescue in sight. It is Sayaka who comes and helps her, question is, how did Sayaka know where she was?
  5. Why did Kyouko want to become friends with the girls she just tried to kill the episode earlier? It is never explained.
  6. Magical girls eventually turn into witches, we know that familiars also turn into witches, Sayaka immediately turns into a witch upon despair, so how does the familiars come into the picture of evolution?
  7. Sayaka transforms into a witch, despite being experienced and powerful, Kyouko decides to suicide for virtually no reason. Also Homura once more refused to help even though it would have been easy for her.
  8. That QB revealed his entire plan despite the fact that nobody asked him to.
  9. Why doesn’t Homura just take Madoka away to another city? She could easily do it, she could even drag some of the others if she really wanted to, as her time powers make her into the most powerful character in the series, yet she doesn’t abuse this power for some inexplicable reason. Walpurgishnacht as they state it in the show, is not trying to destroy the entire earth or the universe, just THAT one city that they live in. So why not fucking leave if you can’t kill it? Jesus Christ
  10. Why does Madoka’s power increases every time Homura loops? It is something that is never explained, yet it is what causes Madoka to become god.
  11. The 10,000 year work of the incubators was about to be destroyed, so why couldn’t just QB say no to Madoka’s wish? He is proclaimed to be logical, if I realized this fact, then so should he have. He is emotionless but clearly not without free will, yet chooses to take the illogical action of granting Madoka’s wish. Shows you just how much wills the characters actually have in this story.
  12. QB not just coercing a girl into wishing the universe to have unlimited energy. The entire claim of limited wishes is clearly bullshit seeing Madoka was turned into a god anyway.

So why did people hype up this mediocrity in the first place? Well it was a magical girl anime, animated by SHAFT of all things and written by the already infamous Gen Urobuchi, had these 2 names not come together, nobody would have cared about Madoka at all. Episode 3 only cemented the hype.

Still the most hilarious thing about Madoka, is probably how Urobutcher trolled his entire crew and staff.

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10 comments on “Overrated and Overhyped Garbage: Madoka Magica

  1. thunderwolf210 says:

    So, in short, you’re a hater! 😀

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  2. Boobies says:

    Pretty much, and have you seen “Rebellion”?

    Oh man, talk about making the anime look good by comparison!

    The first act is some sort of completely inconsequential slice of life bullshit and the two “parody” fights that happen in it just come across as the writers being extremely ignorant and pretentious and wanting to make fun of Ojamajo Doremi-style shows and their “Save the world with love and joy” messages.

    Then the second act is a bunch of lazy and seemingly eternal infodumps set to mindless imagery, and the only mildly amusing thing that happens is Mami fighting Homura over Bebe.

    The third act is just a faux final boss fight so it was kinda lazy but it did have potential to end the series on an ok note, undoing the lazy-ass reset ending of the anime, giving Homura some closure and leaving QB scratching his head, but then the fourth act happens and it’s such a blatant sequel hook, Homura betrays her already paper-thin character and turns into the devil for some bullshit arbitrary reason (I mean, at least the anime kinda tried to justify Madoka having all that magical potential, but here Homura just admits her creepy-ass obsession, mislabels it “Love” and voila, instant unlimited magical potential).

    And now they’re apparently making a fourth movie with Hitomi as a magical girl, goddammit.

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    • Alma Elma says:

      No, I didn’t watch the Madoka movies and I do not plan to do so.

      Mainly because I always viewed it as just a cheap cash-grab attempt that was meant to profit off the success of the original without having any merit of its own. (Which is typical of anime movie sequels in general, so my assumptions are quite justified)
      And secondly, I do not believe that Madoka actually *needed a sequel, the movies are quite unnecessary in my opinion.

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  3. uwu says:

    shit, I really like Madoka but I agree with everything you said
    sad

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  4. Uggh, I hate these so called ‘deconstruction’ anime’s, that don’t even deconstruct anything. Just stuff it with generic angst for the sake of angst.

    As a fan of Kamen Rider, it annoys me that people praise Gen’s storylines (which are basically all the same) when Ryuki did it first, and better. Ironically he also wrote Gaim, which is essentially a rehash of that.

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    • Alma Elma says:

      Deconstruction is one of those words that became nothing more than a meaningless buzzword on the internet, it is something that pretentious people and wannabe critics ignorantly throw around just so they can pretend to have an idea of what they are talking about and sound smart.

      As you said above, these so called “deconstruction anime” don’t actually deconstruct anything, that is because they are not deconstructions in the first place, they are only claimed to be deconstructions. This is hilarious, because it is never the creators or the studios that claim these anime to be deconstructions, no, it is always the fans, the fandom, and the community instead who make these claims and construct this “myth” of being deconstruction around particular anime. They do this so they can pretend that the anime they like is more meaningful and deeper than it actually is, and therefore feel better about their own taste for liking something as profound as a deconstruction.

      Overall this is another good example of how the community can manipulate information and create falsehoods regarding certain shows and negatively affect the enjoyment of other viewers as a result of this.

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  5. Oh well…

    As someone who liked the show a lot (and still does after reading all this) I can’t help but think my already divided opinions about Urobutcher got even more negative.

    Just as an observation, there was an explanation for why Madoka gets stronger by each time-loop given by QB, something about her Karma-Destiny or something, anyway I don’t remember it in detail.

    After I had a go at Saya no Uta and read a couple reviews about it, there’s something really odd about this writer. I am a fiction writer myself, and while I always prefer when a story has meaningful character deaths and not-totally-positive ending over Shounen power-of-friendship idealistic things, I feel he’s a bit of a Edgelord, and not a guy I can really draw inspiration from. I can’t really criticize him much because I also carry some pretty cynical worldviews but whatever.

    About Madoka being a faux deconstruction anime, well, this was accidental. As far as I can remember the show was never officially marketed as a desconstruction anime, that’s made up by fans. Youtuber Digibro has a video in which he talks about Madoka Magica (mostly positively though) and explains that it’s more of a darker take than a deconstruction.

    Anyway, despite roasting hard on a anime I like, I believe you have good points there. I’ll pay more attention to these things like the flaws you point out when writing fiction myself.

    Also, Monster Girl Quest rocks.

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    • Now that I’m already recovered from reading this post, I’ve got a little to add. First of all, congratulations on being able to make such a detailed breakapart.

      I had no idea that Madoka had taken elements from Faust, much less in such a obvious way. A couple of years ago I had seen a meme that exposed Madoka’s absurd similarities with Kamen Rider, but hadn’t taken it seriously, nor had I watched either of those at the time.

      The pseudo-science caught me. When QB explained that, I was intrigued enough with the plot to not notice how little sense it made, and the numerous shock-factor scenes the anime pulls out kept me from noticing how poorly developed most characters were. None of them behave like real people, much like the characters of another Butcher work named Saya no Uta, and so the “appeal” of these stories ends up resting on their very lack of realism.

      I’d say reading this was like taking a very bright ray of light to the face. Suddenly, Madoka Magica is no longer anything impressive to me.

      …Also, thank you for linking that Meguca video. I’ve never seen it and it made me laugh pretty hard.

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      • Alma Elma says:

        “Just as an observation, there was an explanation for why Madoka gets stronger by each time-loop given by QB, something about her Karma-Destiny or something, anyway I don’t remember it in detail.”

        I know there was an explanation; my argument was that it was a shit explanation, because it was full of holes to the point that it would have been better if they did not give any explanation at all. In the first place, it was not something that needed an actual explanation, no one would have cared if they didn’t give one because of the presence of magic and the genre being fantasy, but this anime had to waste its precious time on needless and shitty explanations instead of developing its characters.

        “there’s something really odd about this writer. I am a fiction writer myself, and while I always prefer when a story has meaningful character deaths and not-totally-positive ending over Shounen power-of-friendship idealistic things, I feel he’s a bit of a Edgelord, and not a guy I can really draw inspiration from. I can’t really criticize him much because I also carry some pretty cynical worldviews but whatever.”

        The deal with Urobuchi is that he apparently suffered a serious trauma when he was younger, which almost caused him to die, but he survived and according to himself, this gave him the “eyesight of death”, in other words, it turned him into an edgelord who can only write stories that mirror his own suffering in the past. I’m sure some Psychologist could say some pretty interesting things about Urobuchi and his mental state, but I am no psychologist, so I shall not bother dwelling into this further. Below I posted a link where you can read an interview with Urobuchi, the one where he talks about his “eyesight of death” and his edge. You may find it interesting.
        http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Shinjidai_no_Mixture_Magazine_BLACK_PAST

        As for inspiration, I do not think Urobuchi is a good role model. He is a writer who has fallen into a routine, he became a one trick pony who cannot help but do the same things over and over again, and he is unfortunately not creative as a writer. My Urobutcher bingo picture that I posted above was mainly meant as a joke, but it was also meant to criticize his repetitive habits and methods that are found throughout his works. He is reminiscent to Jun Maeda, another shitty writer who invented a formula (https://almaelmacom.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/anime-cliches-30-nakige/), which turned out to be highly successful, so he has been milking his own formula for decades with visual novels and anime like Air, Kanon and Clannad.

        The only saving grace here is that unlike Jun Maeda, Urobuchi has actually managed to create some works that are arguably good, case in point: Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom and Fate/Zero. I would argue that Phantom is perhaps Butcher’s best work, mainly because it is the one of the few where his edginess does not stand out, rather it mixes with the story and setting of the anime. The basic setting for Phantom is that a young man is kidnapped by a mafia organization called Inferno and they basically brainwash him into becoming a cold blooded assassin, against his will. It is the perfect setting for Urobutcher to actually do his thing and not be edgy in a bad way, and it actually works out quite nicely. And unlike his other works, Phantom did not pretend to be some kind of deep avant-garde anime; it was just a genuine, melancholic, crime drama about assassins, which is always a plus. If you did not watch Phantom Requiem for the Phantom, I would recommend you do so, it is worth at least a single viewing, even though the community has rather conflicting views on it.

        As for Fate/Zero, it worked out because it was not set in Urobuchi’s universe and the ending was already predetermined. He was basically made to work in the home territory of another creator (Nasu Kinoko), so he could not do his usual bullshit that ruins most of his works, and was forced to innovate in terms of writing. Urobuchi’s worst enemy is really himself, as he tends to sabotage himself with his own formula and method. The truth of the matter is, as long as Urobuchi does not step out of his comfort zone, and keeps writing the same kinds of stories over and over again, he will simply not improve as a writer. He needs more experiences like Fate/Zero, where his hands are partly tied.

        While we are on the topic of random Urobuchi works, allow me to write some words about Psycho Pass as well. Psycho Pass would have been another example of a successful Urobuchi product that I could have mentioned here, had it not botched itself completely with the anti-climactic ending, and the fact that Urobuchi pointlessly milked it for a movie and another season, when he could have given a satisfying conclusion to it in the original anime. This is yet another example of Urobuchi ruining his own work.

        “About Madoka being a faux deconstruction anime, well, this was accidental. As far as I can remember the show was never officially marketed as a desconstruction anime, that’s made up by fans. Youtuber Digibro has a video in which he talks about Madoka Magica (mostly positively though) and explains that it’s more of a darker take than a deconstruction.”

        I know it was not marketed as such. It is always the community who keeps throwing out such meaningless buzzwords to justify their taste and make anime they like seem deeper than it actually is. (This is the same thing I said to the previous commenter.) I simply meant to dispel the delusions of those who believe that Madoka is a deconstruction. As for Digibro’s comments on Madoka being a darker take on the genre, I already responded to such claims in this article, where I stated that Dark Mahou Shoujo has been a valid subgenre for decades, and that therefore Madoka being one is nothing exceptional. Only people who do not watch magical girl anime think that being darker is somehow noteworthy.

        “I had no idea that Madoka had taken elements from Faust, much less in such a obvious way. A couple of years ago I had seen a meme that exposed Madoka’s absurd similarities with Kamen Rider, but hadn’t taken it seriously, nor had I watched either of those at the time.”

        The sad thing is that even if you point out Madoka’s lack of originality, people will just idiotically respond that nothing is original in the 21th century and that everything had already been done, so there is no point in complaining that an anime is unoriginal, since everything has been inspired by something that came before it. So goes the argument, yet before you reveal the sources and inspirations of Madoka, these are the same people who would hold up Madoka for its originality amongst magical girl anime, yet the moment the tables are turned against them, they throw originality in the bin. This blatant hypocrisy is part of the reason why I have such disdain towards the Madoka fanbase.

        “The pseudo-science caught me. When QB explained that, I was intrigued enough with the plot to not notice how little sense it made, and the numerous shock-factor scenes the anime pulls out kept me from noticing how poorly developed most characters were. None of them behave like real people, much like the characters of another Butcher work named Saya no Uta, and so the “appeal” of these stories ends up resting on their very lack of realism.”

        Shock factor working just as intended. There is a reason why many hack writers love to use it.

        “…Also, thank you for linking that Meguca video. I’ve never seen it and it made me laugh pretty hard.”

        Glad you enjoyed it.

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